Wednesday, July 18, 2007

House tried, now the Senate tries (and fails)

After the House recently tried (and failed) to surrender in Iraq, the Senate stayed up all night (yawn) to try their hand at giving up. Too bad the only thing the Democrats could lose is the vote to surrender (to bad for them that is).

Senate scuttles troop withdrawal bill

By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer
15 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Senate Republicans scuttled a Democratic proposal ordering troop withdrawals from Iraq in a showdown Wednesday that capped an all-night debate on the war.

Notice from the language just who the reporter was betting on? (hint, it's not the guys with R behind their name)

The 52-47 vote fell short of the 60 votes needed to cut off debate under Senate rules. It was a sound defeat for Democrats who say the U.S. military campaign, in its fifth year and requiring 158,000 troops, cannot tame the sectarian violence in Iraq.

"We have to get us out of a middle of a civil war" said Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., who chairs the Foreign Relations Committee. A political solution must be found "so when we leave Iraq, we don't just send our children home, we don't have to send our grandchildren back."

The best way to avoid sending his (or your) grandchildren to Iraq is to win the war; and avoid a draft. As it is at the moment NO ONE sends their children to war (a point lost on the liberal left).

Republicans were mostly unified in their opposition to sidetrack the legislation, with four exceptions. Three Republicans — Sens. Gordon Smith of Oregon, Olympia Snowe of Maine and Chuck Hagel{heh-LN} of Nebraska — announced previously they support setting a deadline on the war.{surrender-LN}

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, who is up for re-election next year, also voted to advance the bill. Spokesman Kevin Kelley said Collins believes the measure should be subject to a simple majority vote and not the 60 votes needed to end a filibuster. She opposes the legislation, however, Kelley said.{don't believe the lie, if she voted to send it to a vote, she wants it to pass, but wants a safe vote for re-election} (link)

We need some Republicans in these seats... not these RINO's. Love how Kelley tried the yes-cloture to no-pass vote trick, after all the writing that has been done on that procedure, you'd think someone up for re-election would learn. Of course, it is Maine and the N.E. is mostly blue.

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